Reminder of Global Rules and Temporary Removals

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  1. Sachburger

    Sachburger <OSsloth> Video Editor Writer Official Map Tester Pro Player

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    The global rules can be seen here.

    Exploiting kztimer to improve times is a bannable offense but since this exploit was more recently found I have warned @GiimPyS ツ for the times obtained on conrun_mq and _scrub, these have now been deleted.

    In the future if you know about an exploited time or a glitched time from kztimer please report it on discord.

    Please note we are always trying to mitigate these issues through development or other means.

    UPDATE;

    So I have disabled globals on all effected maps by the exploit. If you know of any others that could be exploited let us know.

    Removed from Globals Temporarily
    • bkz_hellokitty_v2
    • bkz_uninspired_trash
    • kz_bhop_skyworld_go
    • kz_communityjump3
    • kz_conrun_mq
    • kz_conrun_scrub
    • kz_neon_portal
    • kz_zhop_freestyle
    • kz_zhop_function3
    • kz_ziggurath_final
    • kz_zxp_final4
    @DanZay and @Sikari have found a fix for the TP exploit so in the best interest of maintaining integrity of top times I have decided to de-global these maps until KZtimer is updated.

    Reason I didn't want to before is because I didn't want to remove maps for an indefinite amount of time for something that didn't effect the more sought after record of Pro.
     
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  2. persona

    persona heh Mapper Pro Player

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    Was this not the booster exploit? This has been known for so long
     
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  3. PlastiS

    PlastiS δΈ€η•ͺ Video Editor Pro Player

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    Having to remind about rules [​IMG]
     
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  4. Sachburger

    Sachburger <OSsloth> Video Editor Writer Official Map Tester Pro Player

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    Yes but it isn't that well known and it's been used very little for global records.
     
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  5. GameChaos

    GameChaos perfect jump ratio: 86.60% Official Map Tester Mapper

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    i was looking for the rules, they're really easy to find you know.
     
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    fLzi f Gon' Give It To Ya

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    GiimPy2514 after many years when you wake up from this "fun" kz stuff, it will be to late, your life will be ruined and you might be lucky if you get yourself a cleaner job at local mc donalds. You cant integrate with society anymore..and because of what?! Thats right - you just wanted to become pro and play 1 - 2 hours kz..that how it is, and its true.
     
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    pLekz uh

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    what is wrong with you
     
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    Netcode SEMIPRO Mapper

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    Its a meme you pleb
     
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    MachineChaos Zane Pro Player

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    autism has become an epidemic
     
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  10. Etro

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    So shouldn't this map be de-globaled until this exploit can be fixed? Sounds like anyone can abuse it.

    If there are going to be global map guidelines then the community should at least be consistent at maintaining and following them.
     
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  11. Zpamm

    Zpamm Hold Tight Staff Member KZGlobalAdmin

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    you would have to de-global any map with a booster, and an idea for a fix has been tested and it doesn't work 100% of the time, it's not really the maps fault that the plugin allows you to teleport , an extreme solution would be to delete any map with a booster, or remove teleports but obviously neither of those scenarios seem good so we chose the one in the thread until a "fix" is available.
     
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  12. Etro

    Etro REGULAR

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    If I understand the exploit correctly it can only be done on tp runs? Perhaps instead of having to watch out for runs using it (since I'm sure there are at least 1 top 20 times using it, or will use it in the future) then allow the skip for tp runs, and pro runs on the map can be considered the legit ones (and they are usually cared about more anyway) since you cant do the skip on pro runs.
     
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  13. persona

    persona heh Mapper Pro Player

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    Its not a skip, its a kztimer exploit like satan used to get all his times removed, why would this ever be allowed in any scenario
     
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    mLw Lost in the Abyss CASUAL

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    I know its ridiculous as a skip thats why I first suggested the map be globaly removed because I'm sure it will just become more and more known and a lot of top 20 times will use it, and it could be annoying to find and remove runs that use it (terrible players could use it and still get a bad time top 20 that doesnt show its obvious they used it)
    I just think its weird to rely on peoples good faith to not use it, either allow it or remove it from global.

    Also is it specific to this map only? Kz timer exploit implies it can be done on other maps, if that's the case then I'd agree that it shouldn't be allowed and the map should remain global due to it not neccesarily being a fault of the map maker.
     
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  16. Sachburger

    Sachburger <OSsloth> Video Editor Writer Official Map Tester Pro Player

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    If you use it I'll ban you for not following rules. This can be checked through bots. It isn't just good faith.

    To answer your edit after I replied: no this isn't a map sc hence why I've been calling it a kztimer exploit.
     
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  17. Etro

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    Yes but I am assuming you would only check times that obviously use it, like an insane record.
    Can you check a time that is #2 on a server since there is no bot?
     
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  18. Sachburger

    Sachburger <OSsloth> Video Editor Writer Official Map Tester Pro Player

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    Okay but my question wasn't answered. Imagine this situation - someone has the #1 time (which does NOT use the exploit) and hence the bot on my server. Someone else gets the #2 time using the exploit, and a global top 20. There is no bot.
    How would a server admin in this situation know the run is legit or not if they never saw it and there was no bot? Is it possible to see bots for non #1 times?

    In this situation someone can get a exploited global time without anyone knowing
     
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    Zpamm Hold Tight Staff Member KZGlobalAdmin

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    true, but if you only get #2 on conrub with the booster exploit you shoud probably commit sudoku
    also, if your point is "well you cant prove that #2-20 didnt use the exploit ", so we should just let everyone use it" then you could say the same about bhop cheats.... if theres no replay bot of #2 time then they could be bhop cheating, so we should let everyone bhop cheat haha yes
     
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