Potentially banning the CJ bind for jumpstats, opinions?

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Ban the bind for jumpstats?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. pLekz

    pLekz uh

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    Basically we've come up with a way to ban the bind for jumpstats. This would mean not having to bind for bhop stats and it would mean that you can't use the bind for LJs either.

    Current drawbacks:
    - Doing a manual crouch jump as a legit LJ would not be possible. Max height for a LongJump to show up would be <56.
    - Bad players who crouch too early in their jump would not get an LJ registered in chat as it would show up as too high.
    - Every single jumpstat would require a complete wipe across every single server. Some lazy server owners would probably not wipe them.

    This thread is simply to gather information on whether or not jumpstatters want this change. I'm not saying it's gonna happen or not gonna happen, we just want your guys' opinion.
     
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  2. sQuared

    sQuared PRO Sucks at KZ

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    Signed to upset LJ'ers cuz they edgy
     
  3. GameChaos

    GameChaos perfect jump ratio: 86.60% Staff Member KZGlobalAdmin Official Map Tester Mapper

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    F U C K I N G B A N I T
     
  4. Ballistic Bacon

    Ballistic Bacon EXPERT

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    BAN THE BIND
     
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  5. Karo

    Karo SCRUB

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    Isn't it too much?
    I agree with banning it for runs, but not sure about jumpstats.
     
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  6. smex

    smex gfyfgt Donor KZ Server Owner Mapper

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    no.
     
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  7. ム Aris

    ム Aris NULL>SKILL

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    why do i feel like this will prob divide the comunity :thinking:
    alot of ppl will be butthurt but if this change will make it in the new kztimer ppl will still jumpstat and with time will ajust to the changes ....
    me personally im 50% yes 50% no (50%no mostly cuz i got used to the bind and im "affraid" of radical changes)
     
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  8. GameChaos

    GameChaos perfect jump ratio: 86.60% Staff Member KZGlobalAdmin Official Map Tester Mapper

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    no like for u
     
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  9. ム Aris

    ム Aris NULL>SKILL

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    "GameChaosI like all posts."
     
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  10. sQuared

    sQuared PRO Sucks at KZ

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    Why have a tool that helps you with a core aspect of KZ that wont be allowed in runs? The bind creates bad habits and new players shouldn't be encourage to use it to get those fancy color jumps. (Also remove count jumps)
     
  11. GameChaos

    GameChaos perfect jump ratio: 86.60% Staff Member KZGlobalAdmin Official Map Tester Mapper

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    people have gotten so used to the bind that they forget that it's a cheat.
     
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  12. ム Aris

    ム Aris NULL>SKILL

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    YES PLZ
     
  13. smex

    smex gfyfgt Donor KZ Server Owner Mapper

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    people will still bind ;-forward so why do you call it "remove" the bind, i would only "remove" it if -forward cant be binded to -jump which isnt possible.
     
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  14. pLekz

    pLekz uh

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    Too much in what sense?
    Grinding bhop stats with the bind is honestly cancer, and I think most if not everyone would agree with that. This ban would simply lower the average standard by a few units, but nothing else would change. If you're a top jumpstatter you would still be able to reach the top again because everyone will be competing at the same level. It's basically just how it is right now, but with a few units lower overall for everyone, and with a less cancer and more consistent way of grinding bhop stats. That last thing would arguably make them more competitive, because people would have a higher chance of hitting perfs thus giving them more attempts at a long distanced jump.
     
  15. pLekz

    pLekz uh

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    I literally specified this exact thing in the title by typing CJ BIND. The only reason nulls and -W isn't getting banned is because there's no way of banning them at this time. This is atleast a step in the right direction.
     
  16. ム Aris

    ム Aris NULL>SKILL

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    its a cheat ? its a cheat cuz some ppl to stubborn to use it say so
    AHK IS A REAL CHEAT a bind is just a bind
    lets take MM for example ppl use quick switch bind for faster reload time is it consider a cheat ?
     
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  17. GameChaos

    GameChaos perfect jump ratio: 86.60% Staff Member KZGlobalAdmin Official Map Tester Mapper

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    omg you don't get faster reload time with quickswitching
     
  18. Diesel

    Diesel TRAINEE

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    plsno my precious bind
     
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  19. dean

    dean SKILLED

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    null better fucbois
     
  20. pLekz

    pLekz uh

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    Just because it's a bind that you can do in your console doesn't mean it should be allowed. You probably weren't around before the turn bind ban. People created an LJ cheat in your console using turn binds that you could get 290+ longjumps with. Should that be allowed too? It's just a bind, so it can't be a cheat, right?
     

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