New Ban Policy

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  1. GnagarN

    GnagarN SexPanda Pro Player

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    I just wish skodna got unbanned, he was my homie.
     
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  2. Zpamm

    Zpamm Hold Tight

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    Try pasting just the numbers after steam _x:x
     
  3. fLzi

    fLzi f Gon' Give It To Ya

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    83 days since last vac ban
     
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  4. GnagarN

    GnagarN SexPanda Pro Player

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    SexPanda
     
  5. razira1 =DD

    razira1 =DD NEW

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    actaully the steamid i was banned with is diffrent from the one i have rn lol
     
  6. Zpamm

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    Only his 6th vac plz no hate skodna
     
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  7. Funk

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  8. sneaK

    sneaK CASUAL KZ Server Owner

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    I'm glad this happened. I'm all for banning cheaters, but "cheating" in KZ has such a broad spectrum, as described in the first post, that one facet isn't as severe as the next. For example, some random kid kid who wants to check out KZ, doesn't know anything about the rules, and without thinking is like "hey, I have this sweet infinite scroll wheel/AHK, let me use it for being able to jump easier" doesn't deserve a permanent ban, say, compared to someone malicious who is using an injected silent strafe hack.

    Also, the version of macrodox in kztimer isn't exactly perfect and definitely picks up false positives. Even if the false positive rate is 0.1%, that's still 1 out of every 1000 players falsely banned. I've had the privilege of viewing and/or incorporating some very private movement-based anticheats (heavily modified macrodox, made by a former cheat creator, and an anti strafe hack logger with raw movement data recording), and I can see how false positives can happen with what we have today. Edit: Not to say any automated system is perfect, either. Ban waves by manual log review is always the best, but most the time consuming.

    The issue with public source anticheats is that if someone truly wants to cheat, they can always be reverse engineered and fooled.

    Glad to hear this change, and if things keep going in this positive direction I'll seriously consider booting back up my KZ server when the new KZTimer is released!
     
  9. nichtojestvo \_(ツ)_/

    nichtojestvo \_(ツ)_/ running kz_failed_fastrun_rt

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  10. Zpamm

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    you won't be banned again unless it's very clear that the stats are new, hopefully in an update to kztimer jumpstats will have timestamps etc on your pb's
     
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  11. Ryan

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  12. fazzio

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    I just want to thank you guys for this. At the start of me playing cs go I used kz to practice until I got banned for using a space bar spammer thing in my mouse settings. At the time i had 200 300 hours in cs and had no idea that this was bad. Later on down the road about 3000 hours 2 lans and a whole lotta raging later I still could'nt kz on my main account. I thank you guys so much for this!
     
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