Need some help with Air Strafing

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  1. mus1cholic

    mus1cholic NEW

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    Hello all,

    I've been jumping KZ on Asia non-global servers for at least half a year now, and I have a problem regarding air strafing.

    My current best LJ is 259.07 units. To me, this is almost unacceptable, because I play KZ at least an hour a day (both maps and blocks), and sometimes I see newbies who start out that get 260 LJs within their first few tries. I'm starting to think that my video setting is the issue here.

    This problem has been getting really frustrating with me, as I am unable to pass 260 blocks without 360 or 180s. Similarly, I am unable to past many long distance blocks without multiple 360's/180's.

    For example, from 0:45 - to 0:48 in , this guy was able to get almost 350 units per second from a 360 without even pre-strafing. In my case, I can barely get 315 units per second WITH pre-strafing.

    Here are some of my LJ jump stats:

    [KZ] mus1cholic jumped 252.7250 units with a LongJump [7 Strafes | 274.351 Pre | 302 Max | Height 55.8 | 33% Sync | CrouchJump: no | -Forward: no]
    #. Sync Gained Lost MaxSpeed AirTime
    1. 18% 2.478 0.000 276.829 11%
    2. 30% 6.359 0.000 283.188 21%
    3. 38% 6.810 3.278 286.720 12%
    4. 44% 6.587 0.979 292.328 16%
    5. 38% 5.188 0.000 297.517 13%
    6. 21% 3.221 0.000 300.739 20%
    7. 43% 1.693 0.000 302.432 6%

    [KZ] mus1cholic jumped 256.2257 units with a LongJump [6 Strafes | 275.601 Pre | 306 Max | Height 55.8 | 35% Sync | CrouchJump: no | -Forward: no]
    #. Sync Gained Lost MaxSpeed AirTime
    1. 42% 4.425 0.000 280.026 14%
    2. 42% 8.262 0.000 288.289 19%
    3. 44% 7.783 1.000 295.071 16%
    4. 43% 6.889 0.952 301.008 14%
    5. 28% 5.462 0.000 306.470 24%
    6. 17% 0.418 0.000 306.889 12%

    [KZ] mus1cholic jumped 253.0377 units with a LongJump [5 Strafes | 275.351 Pre | 302 Max | Height 55.8 | 34% Sync | CrouchJump: no | -Forward: no]
    #. Sync Gained Lost MaxSpeed AirTime
    1. 20% 2.404 0.000 277.755 11%
    2. 35% 10.387 0.000 288.143 34%
    3. 44% 8.069 0.071 296.140 18%
    4. 23% 3.360 0.000 299.501 23%
    5. 50% 3.008 0.000 302.509 10%

    Yes, I do realize my sync value is quite bad, but I don't even know where to start improving those, even though I have tried and compared many times before.

    I wish I was able to give a visual representation of what I'm trying to say, but I play on a pretty crappy computer and my fps drops to as low as 20-30 when I tried to record a movie. However, I am more than happy to meet up with people who can't quite comprehend what I'm trying to say on a server and demonstrate to them my terrible air strafes.
     
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  2. fLzi

    fLzi f Gon' Give It To Ya

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    sync increases naturally over time tho you can try and "program" yourself to get better sync when you pay attention about what you do with your mouse and keyboard.

    your main problem is your fucked airtimes , your penultimate strafe has twice as much airtime as it should have which is a big problem since it brings you away from the ideal path.
    your first strafe should be the largest one because its the strafe where you transition from your prestrafe to the lj. your strafes should be even with the first few having a bit more airtime/gain because it is better if you have more speed early.

    i suggest starting all over again with a different prestrafe style or with a different prestrafe direction. look at http://www.kz-climb.com/advancedstrafing.html for more information.
     
  3. mus1cholic

    mus1cholic NEW

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    True. I have accessed that website before but thought it was too in-depth for me at that moment. I will look through it carefully this time :).

    Are you able to explain the 360 not even beginning to reach that speed though?
     
  4. persona

    persona heh Mapper Pro Player

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    Really big strafes, like 180s and 360s speed seems to be pretty dependent on fps, if your fps is pretty low, not gonna get as good speed gain on 360s if it was much higher.
     
  5. gaiyik

    gaiyik TRAINEE

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    also, tickrate. doing a 360 in 102 tick used to get me only 350 where it would be 380 in 128 tick. maybe the server you're playing on has a lower tickrate?
     
  6. mus1cholic

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    That actually might be one reason. Both my friend and I play KZ actively, but we both also use Macs, which can barely give us 110-120 FPS when jumping.

    Are there ways in order to increase our FPS somehow? I really don't want to get stuck on KZ just for this...
     
  7. mus1cholic

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    It's 128 tick.
     
  8. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu CASUAL

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    The problem is you play on mac. Mac has a built in mouse delay which fucks sync, also you can't use the raw input option for your mouse in csgo on mac which also makes it very hard to get good sync. I actually bootcamp windows on my imac so i can kz properly. It's so hard to play on mac. FPS is also an issue, if you don't have your settings on lowest for everything I recommend that, at least for me my imac's specs are garbage so I need lowest everything to get good fps.
     
  9. gaiyik

    gaiyik TRAINEE

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    i played on a macbook pro late 2012 too. i got 180 fps when i was lucky, and i credit it to 4:3 res (i played on 1024 x 768)
    obviously lowest settings for everything
     
  10. mus1cholic

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    since the start i've been using 4:3 with the lowest settings possible, but well i'm still getting pretty shit fps, even in competitive plays, on maps like nuke i'm not able to get more than 55 fps.

    cthulhu, is there any way to remove that delay using external/third-party programs?

    thanks for the help all by the way, at least now i identified the problem, ish...
     
  11. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu CASUAL

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    Tbh in my opinion kz is unplayable on mac. It's pretty much a giant handicap though.
     
  12. nichtojestvo \_(ツ)_/

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    AYY LMAO
    ur fps does not affect, it is not 1.6..........lmao....
     
  13. fLzi

    fLzi f Gon' Give It To Ya

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    ............. lmao ...................
     
  14. Funk

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    brb fps cap to 32 and bhop
     
  15. nichtojestvo \_(ツ)_/

    nichtojestvo \_(ツ)_/ running kz_failed_fastrun_rt

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    ......ayy.......................
     
  16. Zpamm

    Zpamm Hold Tight Staff Member KZGlobalAdmin

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    This is true when you use ahk fps doesn't matter !!!!!
     
  17. persona

    persona heh Mapper Pro Player

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    Cap your fps to 120, do some 360 bhops, see what speed you get, then cap it to 300, do some 360s, see what speed you get!!!
     
  18. Zpamm

    Zpamm Hold Tight Staff Member KZGlobalAdmin

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    His PC only gets 120fps
     
  19. persona

    persona heh Mapper Pro Player

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    Why 120? The human eye can't see past 30 fps_-
     
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    ^_^
     

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